In August 2016, Gomez cancelled the last legs of her Revival world tour to reportedly deal with complications from lupus, including anxiety, panic attacks, and depression. The train was moving way to fast Im getting deep now but the train was going so fast of every action and behavior that shes ever done that it was inevitable. She was aware of what she was doing. From what I remember, I think we did the scene several times before the balloons. Yes, I do. Among the whos-who Washington guest list was an older and broken Gary, on parole after serving time for Selina (who never even visited him), and who had a message for his former queen. It would have just had less of the footage of The Money Pit and whatnot. I think hed love to go to restaurants and be able to eat, but Im not quite sure hed have a lot to say. His take? "She wasn't loving the idea of him being . PMC Entertainment. And were all going to missArmando. Shes about to become president again and that is the biggest joy of Garys life. But I so respect his decision. During her desperate, obsessive drive to return to . But I guess I have hope. Among the who's-who . says the actress. Your legacy lives on in your children and that is a prime example, where her daughter is celebrating her demise and her death. (At least Sufe Bradshaws Sue was still guarding the Oval Office, doing MVP work to block VP Jonah, played by Timothy Simons, from any executive privilege.) ", It was a playful and ideal wink to the very first episode, in which Mike attempted to console Selina about a gaffe by absurdly suggesting that maybe bigger breaking news could overshadow it: "What if Tom Hanks dies? But you saw that tinge of humanity in her that made her sad. I dont have all of it, but theres a key piece of information that I would love to get in at some point, he says. He is so invested in her, so I knew that going that high in joy would hopefully help that devastation of him being taken away by the FBI. Then obviously they leave and shes there alone, and yeah, I think its full on anger, its full-on recrimination. Because its almost like the same thing with Selina, where the train was moving so fast with every bad choice and horrible action that she couldnt stop herself. Origins of Labor Day. Im always surprised with Gary. she kept it together while holding the nuclear codes, she never grabbed people by the p***y. b). We sort of got a little freaked out by what that meant, and Julia was in the middle of trying to get through to his agent, or any of those kinds of things, when all of a sudden, the response came back, and he was delighted and gave a big thumbs up. (Laughs.) When history looks back on Selina Meyer, Im not sure anyone will ever have anything great to say about her being vice president or either of the times she was president. She wasnt completely disconnected. Press J to jump to the feed. I think the world has gotten very horrible. Entertainment Weekly is a registered trademark of Meredith Corporation All Rights Reserved. You never know. Check out all of THRs series finale coverage of Veep here. Still, a few folks went for it. Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Selina Meyer. https://www.yahoo.com/tv/veep-showrunner-david-mandel-responds-labor-day-theories-162157120.html. TVLINE | How does this impact their relationship moving forward? So I think probably the last 15 years of that prison sentence was spent dealing with that and all those feelings. The big one that we were on for probably a lot of the discussion was that never-before-seen President Hughes would die on the same day, and that would sort of steal her thunder. Its like, what the hell are you doing, dude? Andrew met Selina Eaton in 1988 at the beginning of her senior year at Smith. Entertainment Weekly may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. But I kinda like the idea of finding out more, so well see what happens., ANALYZING THE ANSWERS/MANDEL RESPONDS: We read him a list of popular theories. Selina, bitter with Doyle after the debacle in Season 5, begins grooming Jonah to run under the condition that he appoints her Secretary of State, and in return, shell finance his campaign. "I'm just gonna simply say too easy. DAVID MANDEL ASKS: Do you want to know what happened on Labor Day? And theres no coming back. When Gary is being taken away by the FBI, he fights it until he sees that shes aware of whats happening. Thats a hard one. Not Julia, but Selina is like, 'I'm not going to look like s---!' This was a really [important] scene, and we wanted to make sure it gelled, so we worked on it in for a while to find the flow of it. MANDEL RESPONDS: As far as Gary and Selina parting ways, We think about that. Catherine told her mother that shed never forgive her for agreeing to ban same-sex marriage, and then we saw her watch her funeral at home with Marjorie [Clea DuVall], which indicated estrangement. And so Gary wouldnt really listen to what shes actually saying. She Danes-es it up, he says. We actually had another scene that we wrote and shot of Jonah in the EEOB that ultimately fell out, of seeing him as vice president in that office. It took that. In many other countries May Day serves a similar purpose. ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: Season 5s Mother in which Selina lost both her mom and, perhaps more importantly, the popular vote got three times the nods of any other episode. The second he said it, it was just like, Oh, my God. ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: So 50 percent had no idea the former TNT series existed. He knows all the skeletons. And of course he would be like, Yes.. Thats what was so beautiful about the way Dave [Mandel] wrote and directed the episode. It was horrific to film. And even though I looked at all the takes, Julia was the one who said, No, no, no take a look, I think I reacted when I hear the name. And I went back and I saw what she did, what she was talking about, so its intercut much more so that he says Maam, Gary and then youre back on her so it plays on her face, the realization moment. "You don't have to worry," he said, pleasantly startled. Andrew owns a large company, which is revealed to have funded both sides of the 2012 presidential election. So that was tricky. But keep in mind, as far as Garys concerned, she shouldve been president years ago. This is, you know it's roadkill." It was probably the most heartwarming Youre my hatchet man line ever delivered.Weve played a lot with the notion of this horrific dad she had, over the past three years. Im just not sure its feasible for either of them to leave each other. And while Selina has already expressed interest in running for president again (an idea that Ben, mercifully, shot down in the Season 6 premiere), is Mandel rushing to get her back to Washington? ", It was during that last line that Gary was accosted by two FBI agents on the side of the stage. Because that moment she realized she wasnt going to have to change it to something else. She doesn't have empathy for others. There was a moment when she was looking at Gary and you could see the sadness in her eyes for him, but she couldnt stop herself. I do think Gary is a much better version of himself during that funeral, definitely. Disturbing. Speaking of emotional moments, Selina had an unconventional father-figure moment with Ben [Kevin Dunn] after his heart attack. Durch Klicken auf Alle akzeptieren erklren Sie sich damit einverstanden, dass Yahoo und unsere Partner Ihre personenbezogenen Daten verarbeiten und Technologien wie Cookies nutzen, um personalisierte Anzeigen und Inhalte zu zeigen, zur Messung von Anzeigen und Inhalten, um mehr ber die Zielgruppe zu erfahren sowie fr die Entwicklung von Produkten. Im mourning that. Warning: This story contains plot details from Sunday's series finale of Veep. The New York Times Magazine recently posited that at the center of the acerbic satire that is "Veep" sits "the singularly awkward, brutal, tender, nonromantic romance between Selina and Gary.". In the United States, Peter J. McGuire, a union leader who had founded the United Brotherhood of Carpenters in 1881, is generally given credit for the idea of Labor Day. I dont have the secret answer of what Labor Day was, I just liked the idea of a lot of clues that kept changing what you thought about it. "I wanted to say a word about sacrifice," she said. Desperate to find a fall guy for her scandals with the Meyer Fund and illicit ties to the Chinese government (whom she actively courted to meddle in the election), Selina chose the best man(child) for the job: poor, naive Gary. Catherine, Gary, Tibet, and pristine federal lands are just some of the collateral damage in this mad dash to the Oval Office. . Mandel thinks Jamies read was correct: I think she only really tried to do good if she thought it was politically expedient. And at one point, we even talked about in the episode where you would meet the General and he plans her funeral, the credits of that episode would be the funeral. That could be enjoyable. The problem is, Im happy to get rid of the incidental swearing. Post Mortem: Tony Hale Talks Gary and Selina's Epic Clash, Sheds Light on 'Labor Day' Mystery. I mean, its all new people. Selina Meyer and her staff try to take on the White House in this HBO sitcom. The Ericsson thing it was funny, it was actually Annas idea, and I thought it was very enjoyable. And they have had this just crazy ping-pong back-and-forth relationship, and he has constantly screwed her over. We spend so much time trying to make the irrational rational and hes thinking, Theyre gonna wake up, theyre gonna wake up. She never did. The Dan-Amy shippers that was never going to happen. Labor Day is a federal holiday in the United States celebrated on the first Monday in September to honor and recognize the American labor movement and the works and contributions of laborers to the development and achievements of the United States. "And you are a lifesaver, I couldn't have done it without you," she returned, surprising him with a hug. To read what Louis-Dreyfus and Hale thought of Selinas betrayal of Gary, head over here. Votes were also cast for notoriously incompetent Mike, groper Teddy, vicious Roger Furlong, war hero Danny Chung, stoic Kent (Hard to read and even harder to please, Jamie insisted), and puppet master Ben. Why am I here? And that idea that comes up earlier in the season, which is her having to plan her own funeral which presidents do I honestly think we tried to jam that into the finale of season 5 when she was leaving the White House. I think he has forgiven her. The First Labor Day. Did he give up because he was defeated and heartbroken, or because he wanted to make this sacrifice for her? Its fun to go over memories. I know people have been waiting for it. A Dan thats been to prison. Its revealed that she never visited Gary in prison, yet he shows up at her funeral and gives her the special lipstick. The most joy Gary ever had was when he would get the right lipstick; when he would get the right coat. Julia Louis-Dreyfus., MANDEL RESPONDS: Hearing that last answer, Mandel can only laugh: Have our standards for what a president is dropped so far in the last two years that this is what were saying is good about Selina Meyer? But looking at the big picture I find that [two-thirds number] fascinating, because I think shes a horrible person! Both Labor Day and May Day, the two worker holidays, grew out of violent clashes between labor and police in the American Midwest.What is known as the Haymarket Riot (or . And that never came to pass. So why is he there? I feel like the sun has set on her career., ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: Yes, 85 percent of people said theyd like to know what Gary and Selina were referring to in Season 4s legendary East Wing blowup when he yelled, Can you find somebody else who did what I did? and she responded, You mean on Labor Day? About half of those people, without provocation, also added that theyd like to know what was in the trash bag that Selina made Gary retrieve in Season 2s Shutdown. The 15 percent who said no to a Labor Day reveal feel as Eman does: Some things are more beautiful when left unexplained., MANDEL RESPONDS: I didnt know the trash bag was on their minds quite as much, but thats fascinating. No votes? Because Selina doesn't go there very frequently. What we just spoke about is obviously all of Garys story. In one way, their bond can never be broken, and he will always have some measure of twisted devotion to her. Ethan Hart gave a vague response: Im not sure, but I would love to see a Veep character cry like Carrie on Homeland. Sonia Murray, however, was very specific (Homeland spoiler alert! It was just covered with a lot of dysfunction. !, Matt Walsh) was about to deliver a heartfelt eulogy about Selina to his viewers, but in the ultimate karmic-cruel joke, he had to cut his report short to cover more important breaking news: the death of Tom Hanks. The sidelining of the vice president, that it happened to Selina, is a great end for Jonah, and that he got some of the power he wanted, but had to learn what she learned, which is it wasnt much of anything. And its hard to make the audience think that in terms of her behavior to Catherine, this is any worse than anything else she has previously said to Catherine. TVLINE | The argument is diffused when she is reminded of what he did for her on Labor Day. Thats Washington D.C. for you District of C***s!, MANDEL RESPONDS: Theyre not wrong, he says. In the heat of the moment, there probably was a realization in her mind that hes more than just a lap dog. I have confidence because of what he has previously worked on, but also because of his relationship with Julia. He has no personal identity, so Selina becoming president is like getting the key and him becoming president. The country is just waking up to how cherished she is. I think shes that kind of boss that would give you things to do, and before you even had 30 seconds to do it, shed be asking where it was, and then she would take it back from you and do it herself. 2023 Oscars predictions: See who will win at the 95th Academy Awards. Then when shes left alone, she starts to tear up as if shes taking stock of what she has besides this job, and the answer is nothing. Oh, yes. This is the main character of a TV show, and you relish in her horribleness. It was a clever nod to the pilot, in which Mike had posited that the latest Meyer lemon would be overshadowed by even bigger news: What if Tom Hanks dies?. Sufe Bradshaw returned as Sue to the White House, which was a feel-good surprise in a brutal episode. (Laughs.) When he would give her what she needed. "I thought it was really interesting that everybody is in old-age makeup, everybody's looking rough, we're all really old, and the only one that is not in old-age makeup is Selina," says Hale. As a whole, I was really satisfied by where they were taking the end because Selina was so awful, so bitter, so narcissistic and so selfish without any empathy. Its time to make everybody pay. Do you believe Selina felt remorse? So much for Labor Day loyalty. And its not easy for her, but its not as hard as it probably should be, either. How did you get her to return? Do you need me to fly back to New York and get a comb you left there? TVLINE | Were you surprised by Garys outburst? Thats perfect., Did you reach out to Tom Hanks for his death blessing? And so, Julia e-mailed him, and then we got back this very quick auto-response, that was like, Im traveling. The betrayal and flash-forward outcome solidified Selinas monstrous transformation and yet, if you ask Hale, he has a surprising take on how it all played out. Even with all the dysfunction and all the abuse, he did have this almost spiritual love for her. I think you try to stay in Garys world. When did you decide to play that devastating card, and how did you decide that she would stoop that low?I refer to it in the [writers] room a little bit as the Fredo moment [from The Godfather Part II], for many reasons, but also just the lovingness and the loyalty of poor Fredo and, of course, of poor Gary Originally that was not happening. 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Selinas pretty awful. But I think theres something wonderful and really wonderfully confusing about watching Selina take down Tom James, especially after these last three years, and just culminating in what he says to her in the hospital, you want to stand up and applaud. And I think had Sufe not been available, we would have gotten rid of that scene and gone with the other scene. Thats actually kind of the perfect paring, if shes the ventriloquist and Im the dummy. My guess is that I think he was probably in prison for about 20 years. "He's very bitter. So even when shes with people, shes a little bit alone. Regardless of any of that, having taken the time off we did, Im not going to lie, I wanted to come out fighting. I moved for the past seven years anytime she said that and the fact that I had to stay there was like, 'Aww, dammnit! Its sort of fun, Mandel says. Im just gonna simply say too easy. It was a move that on its face seemed shocking and heartbreaking, and served as the show's darkest moment. Weve been gone a year, and were back, and were not taking any prisoners. And then when she was writing the book with Mike, a little bit more about her father. The people she banned are now there. And President Richard Splett is that expression of hope for the future. He always wanted to match her. But it feels pretty definitive. Thats the outcome of living a life like she did. Oh, no, no, no!' He was ready to do whatever she asked. (Laughs.) When Kent is basically bellowing at Selina and kind of losing it a little bit, the camera finds Amy there. Walsh was one of Meyer's closest confidants, having worked for Meyer from the time she was a congresswoman to her fourth presidential campaign. We love that dichotomy., Did Selina have good intentions when she was in office? But near the end of Sunday's series finale, it all came crashing down in the show's darkest moment. Its been a well-received season of change for HBOs Veep, but as we found out when we posed showrunner David Mandels 13 questions to fans, there are two things you can count on remaining the same: viewers love-hate relationship with Jonah and their shared desire to know what Gary did for Selina on Labor Day. I think he gets an odd kick out of watching the show. But I guess at the end of the day, Im a cynical son of a bitch. I loved it, because it was obviously a salute to the show, but by the way, was also proving my point, Mandel says. And in this case, she didnt even say it, she had the FBI guys come and grab me. And yeah, anybody who thought she should be president wasnt maybe paying attention the way they should have been. I dont know quite what hes doing there, but its kind of wonderful., ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: Mandel admits some of his questions werent necessarily designed to be answered. In terms of looks, I will say that the idea of Dan really not aging is one of my all-time favorite ideas. She beats him and beats him badly. And I do think its a little hopeful. In that episode Gary has a private company take Selina's garbage back to her home residence. I agree [about Danny Chung] youd get very sick of hearing about a tank and stuff. But I also sort of agree [with Eman]: With Labor Day, at some point you worry that theres no answer that would satisfy anybody, he says. We, I dont want to say padded, because my guess is he could end up with more. Ben (Kevin Dunn) has been dead! Tricky. "There was just an enormous amount of restraint. What is the feeling in that moment? So thats what she did, which is not exactly healthy. A few suggested either watching an interview online in which Anna says it herself (see above), or simply just calling her Anna to be safe. 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