He demands to know her whereabouts and the exact time and date of her return to him. Also he's giving her a set of rules in which she now has to live by in order for them to have a "happy and peaceful" life, because it's either his way or NO way at all.I believe that he takes very little responsibility in what has happened with their marriage. WebIn 1345 Italian scholar, poet and humanist Francesco Petrarca (Petrarch) discovered Cicero's Letters to Titus Pomponius Atticus in the Biblioteca Capitolare della Cattedrale di Verona. Unlike him, at least Helmer was willing to treat Nora with more respect. But she clearly has some inner issues that she attempts to hide from people, especially Torvald, by becoming obsessed with these things. << /Length 5 0 R /Filter /FlateDecode >> & this is apparent why i firmly believe that in those times no one was truely happy and wives lived only to please there husbands and kids were just like a way to prove that you loved you husband, and the higher number the more you loved them. Instead of being reduced to an antiquated piece of Victorian literature, Ibsen's play continues to stir thought about the dynamics of human relationships within a set society. Each character had a dependent relationship with money - wanting more, not having it, or trying to get it. I don't think that the specific time made them act certain way. Both men are the head of the household and both men dominate their wives, but I believe Marcus is more badly then Torvald. The condition of ones marriage should come before the words of neighborhood gossipers. He said because of this she has to carry all the guilt and he is justifying himself for making his mistake. This means that not only is she in breech of contract with her husband and children, but also with God. I don't think any character is narcissistic because at some point in the story every character admits to/ display obvious flaws. The only one thing I would say deems Nora a narcissist above all else is her departure in the end. However, in Marcus case he makes defines what are the duties that a woman should be doing in her house. During that time period, women were expected to get married and have children, even if they did not want to. I also agree with what Oksana said about how Marcus views his wife in a "role of a slave". I think another major difference is just the relationship itself, I mean from what I read in this letter there is no love between Marcus and his wife it's all just duty to one another and the children. In addition to that, although too late Helmer does admit that it was wrong for him to treat her the way he did after reading the letter. Or perhaps she is a narcissist and is blind to it. I believe he takes almost full responsibility for his actions and for him being the reason she has left, not her fault. John Downes letter to his wife creates an enthusiastic, persuasive tone to try to convince her to leave England and come to the United States. A Marxist Approach to A Doll house show how a female role relies on a male. I think that if Helmer were to write a letter to Nora, it would not be of the same framework as Marcus' letter. I do not see any real relationship or emotionial feelings between the two of them, but he wants her as a "slave wife" doing everything that he wants.I did not find any big similarities between Marcus and Torvald. The text is not feminist due to the fact that Nora is not standing up for some rights giving by women. The Antonine Plague of 165 CE, a global pandemic with a mortality rate of between 2-3%, began with flu-like symptoms until it escalated and became gruesome and painfully fatal. But than again, sometimes people do not always want to be parents. Marcus makes it seem as if Ulrike has more to lose by not coming back to him only because she is a woman. He asks the man to explain Hester's crime. he is dictating to his wife in this letter as well. The letter that Marcus wrote to his wife Ulrike is what would be fuel to a feminist's fire. I do not beleive that Nora purposely ment to be ego-centric, however, she was. Does he accept any responsibility for their separation? Marcus truly believes he is in the right. It would be considered marxist due to the fact that her decision were partly based on the social parts of the play. VK Uk"Goy=e2,F,h-R|>#g380B?fM59!r|HR3s3zZfg{)/70UdF.t}dEno"Xp`&/ Helmer, while being a rather selfish man, was not one to demand so many things from Nora. Even if she did not bond with her children right after birth, parents grow to love them. When I read a Doll's house, I mostly just saw a strong sense of humanism. Both families are well off and well known. He accepts the responsibility for their separation by agreeing that she has sinned however he also sinned as well. That I can say is true because Nora did not have a job of her own other than tendingto the house and basically spending Torvald's money. The letter tells of the witches' prophecy for him, which is treated as a certainty, because "I have learned by the perfectest report, they have more in them than mortal knowledge" (1.5.1-3) . I think that a letter to Nora written by Helmer would be filled with persuasion, while being a little deceitful, would make a convincing argument as to why she should return home and probably flatter her a little. Hence, the Athenians represented him with his robe before his mouth, as if he felt the pinching winds. You explore the feelings of a man desperate in the heat of loosing his job, and wife trying to hide the debt she has obtained from her husband. In the very first sentences of the letter Marcus is completely blaming his wife. It's business. Yet I read, and read again your charming letters, and they serve me, in some faint degree as a substitute for the company and conversation of the writer. [3] His longing for her during their war-enforced separation led him to write that he wanted to see her think. He does take some responsibility for how he acted, but not much. I truly dont believe it was for the obvious rotting effect, but the way her rotten teeth would be perceived by the public. He is verbally abusing her to the point until she is broken down and reduced to nothing. As Nora is the main character of the play, she would be receiving the most attention, however, Nora seems to like the attention. Their marriages must remain intact to silence slanderous lips. But she also responded to many This is again no way or form standing up for her rights but giving into her selfish desires and trying to "fix" her life based on releasing herself from her environment. 15. He was living by society's rules and really didn't know any better. Walton's ship now passes through ice fields and warmer than expected weather. Of course most, if not all, of the problems within the foils of the play were created by or influenced by the fact that the early 20th century was ruled by the free market. Which is very childlike and well you did it first so ha. Webwife does not follow my wishes but believes herself to be entitled to act on her own, even if this is totally against my orders. Due to all the things going on economically and the accusations against Nora that she would come to a decision on her own to stop it. From the span of Christmas Eve to the dawn of the day after Christmas, you see a woman grow fed up with the world around her and walk out on her entire family. He asked her how she could possibly not love him anymore. Both Marcus and Torvald concern themselves with the opinions of others. March 7, 2017. By approaching Nora's character as a narcissist, newer productions can add more layers to her character and enrich the overall play. The Marxist approach is very interesting. 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We see that at the end of the play, Helmer, while throwing some passive insults in Nora's direction, is a little more understanding that most would expect him to be, considering the circumstances. WebMarks and Spencer Group plc (commonly abbreviated to M&S and colloquially known as Marks's or Marks & Sparks) is a major British multinational retailer with headquarters in Paddington, London that specialises in selling clothing, beauty, home products and food products.It is listed on the London Stock Exchange and is a constituent of the FTSE 250 An argument that presents Nora as narcissistic is one of great interest, one which I had never considered before. I would just like to strongly emphasize the point that I do not think this would be the letter that Helmer would write to Nora in the future of their separation. You can not take care of others if you are not taking care of your own needs. Socit; Collections. It is understandable that outsiders will comment on such a juicy and tragic event as their wives leaving. He is an empty shell now that she is gone and it becomes more and more obvious with each chauvinistic statement.He also spoke of things to come. It's only natural. I believe that throughout the play, Nora exhibits all the traits of a narcissistic person. But I do have one thing to disagree with, and that's to think that all of Nora's decisions that she had made in the end were a result of capitalism, I think its a little more personal that, I hate the fact that the author of the Marxist article tried to say that "Noras of the world by manipulating their economic status and, by extension, their conscious estimation of themselves and their place in society." But I can't help but see that her narcissism wasn't the cause of her leaving her family and home. He is almost warning her that if she doesn't come home, she will be worse off than if she stayed. He seems to be very harsh towards his wife. He even tries to persuade Nora to not leave him. And its expected since Adam sinned after Eve. In a Psychoanalytic Reading of Nora, Tufts argues that Nora is more of a narcissist individual rather than a victim of her husband's oppression. When it comes to Torvald he was a little different, he wasnt that demanding with Nora in fact she sometimes seemed to be manipulating him. She abandons HER CHILDREN to do what she wants to do. These relationships are not like the marriages we are use to seeing, they are more like transactions and mergers, but as cities and industry grew in the 19th century the desire to contribute to society might have prompted these women [ Nora and Ulrike] to self discovery. He basically begged her to stay. He is so obsessed with how she's going to look in one particular dress he doesn't even ask how shes doing.For Marcus, he creates such a demand for his, its hard for him to love someone who he makes do so much. It comes across more as a letter written to someone who defaulted on a marital contract and is not doing her job as a wife, than a lover who was left behind or done wrong. At the end when she leaves it seems that she is only thinking of herself because she just gets up and leaves. That seems to be the easy case for Nora but at the end she realized her economic status did not matter or the price was just too high. I never considered a Marxist approach when thinking about A Doll House, but it makes some good points and I can see it some many of the other characters perspectives not just Nora and Tolvald. On March 15, 44 B.C. Can you achieve perfect freedom on this earth? The ending to the play speaks wonders to Noras narcissistic character. Just because she left her husband she had no right. Overall, I really just thought of A Doll's house as a summary of everyday life, how things can go from everyday normal life to a crumbling mess. Torvald penny-pinching ways forced Nora to borrow money for their vacation when he was sick, before the story begins, because the doctors urged Nora to. WebMeghan ate those famous chicken tacos at her desk in London while reading Mrs. Obamas e-mails. Tuft uses the comparison to delve into Nora's true character and complexity which is opposite to the assumption that the play is an agent for female strength and independence. WebRemember how proud I have always been of your superb pluck, keep Elizabeths future in mind, and dont permit my death to bow your head. He believes women need to live with a man in order to have necessities and a good reputation. That can't possibly be true, it is not a take take take relationship. She is also worrying about keeping "secret" safe so that Torvald doesn't find out. With all that he is really not taking any blame at all and just putting it all on her. However, I do not believe he takes on any responsibility for their separation. 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